Curse

Canadian Bacon · Jul 20, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Ok, I need the community to tell me if I am as big of a jackhole as "Karen" (name changed for obvious reasons) made me out to be.

Here's what happened:

I wanted to cap Eviscerate on my warrior, but didn't want to wait until Hell's Precipice to get it, so I opted to shoot for Tanzit in SF. Wiki told me that he spawns on the Oro quest, so I joined an Oro quest group. (I would've just done a farm run, but I have 0 exprience at stance tanking so I figured it wouldnt go well.)My mistake, which I fully acknowledge as a mistake, was not telling my group that I had a desire other than the main quest objective. Note that I had not intended on ditching the party after capping, and I tried to explain this to Karen, but- nevermind, that's later.

So off we go. It was actually not me that directed the party into the cavern where Tanzit had so conveniently spawned, though I suspect that Karen assumed that I did. It was the place where there are Dredge's and some stairs, and then it leads off into that tree-ish area. Tanzit sat at the bottom of the stairs. We killed off all but Tanzit's mob before anyone questioned why we were going that way, since that isn't where Oro goes. I announced that I wanted to cap from Tanzit, and being that he was so close, it wouldn't take long. I even begged, but alas they all headed the other way. Right about then was where the confrontation with Karen was born.

I should point out that our healer dropped from the party right after leaving Tanzit behind. I should also point out that although I feel Karen severely over-reacted to my wrong-doing, she never swore, which is something she should take pride in. Thumbs up to that!

So, Karen starts going off at me about how I shouldn't abandon loyalty for my own greed. At that point, I admit that I didn't see the error of my actions. I don't think anyone believed me when I told them I had not intended on dropping form the party.

To sum up the next few minutes into 3 simple words; (1) We (2) Got (3) Owned. All of a sudden, it was all my fault. Karen said that if I hadn't abandoned the party (when did that happen?) and gone after Tanzit (once again, I didn't lead us there. How could I have even known where he spawned?) then we would not have failed. Personally, I attribute our failure to the fact that we lost our healer and were relying on a bonder to save us, and that we had a couple too many wammos. Once again, I know now that I definitely should have told my party that I wanted to cap, but I still fail to see how a trip to Tanzit's metaphorical doorstep, which incurred no deaths to the party, played a role in our demise.

After dieing a few times, the party fell apart. The leader ported him/herself, me, and Karen back to town, where I decided that, since I couldn't get a word in if I tried, I would not try. I left the party. I found a new group, but discovered that Karen had beat me to it, and sat in the party position above me. After she announced that she would leave the party unless I forfeited my position, I left. I wanted to drop the argument right there, but I just couldn't. I needed to know in perfect detail exactly how my innapropriate failure to inform the team about my alternate goal contributed to the overall downfall fo the team.

She cited my extreme lack of teamwork, my selfishness and my utter abandonment of loyalty to my comrades first and foremost.

I understand that it was wrong of me not to tell the team I wanted to cap, but the fact that the party took a small detour which, by coincidence, was exactly the detour I wanted played absolutely zero role in our death, in my opinion.

Basically what I'm saying with this is that yes, I made a bad move, but Karen really freaked out too much. I was undeserving of such a harsh barrage of unkind words.

Community, I ask you now; Am I an ***hole? Go ahead and be honest, after that lashing from Karen, I can take anything.

Thallandor · Jul 20, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49

Piece of advice. If you are capping use hencies unless you tried and cant do it, then join a capping grp.

Kai Nui · Jul 20, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53

Yeah it was your fault for not mentioning that you had another agenda. I mean that's why you were there in the first place, right?

Canadian Bacon · Jul 20, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

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Originally Posted by Kai Nui

Yeah it was your fault for not mentioning that you had another agenda. I mean that's why you were there in the first place, right?

Ya, but i also did want the quest.

I know I was wrong, as I said, but was Karen overeacting? I mean she really wouldn't let up on me, like I killed a puppy or something.

Cacheelma · Jul 20, 2006, 04:56 AM // 04:56

You made a mistake telling them about capping. I mean, if you don't want to tell the group at first, don't ever mention about it.

They were there for the quest, trying to kill something unnecessary AFTER realized that you're on the wrong way is not a good way to finish the quest.

But don't get too work up about it. XD

Thom Bangalter · Jul 20, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57

um...It's a game. both of you need to chill out.

Canadian Bacon · Jul 20, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

You made a mistake telling them about capping. I mean, if you don't want to tell the group at first, don't ever mention about it.

They were there for the quest, trying to kill something unnecessary AFTER realized that you're on the wrong way is not a good way to finish the quest.

But don't get too work up about it. XD

I mentioned it because he was right there in front of me, but the group was leaving. I doubted that anyone would come back and get it with me after.

Oh, and I just found Karen in game and invited her to come post here. I dunno if she will or not.

Former Ruling · Jul 20, 2006, 05:07 AM // 05:07

If you were right in front of Tanzit..I woulda just ran in and started fighting...

Then its they HAVE to come back or they let a warrior drop...

Then when they say "NOO IDIOT IT ISNT THAT WAY" You coulda blew it off like "Oh, Sorry, I thought since we were going this way We'd continue"

and that woulda been that...

Canadian Bacon · Jul 20, 2006, 05:09 AM // 05:09

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

If you were right in front of Tanzit..I woulda just ran in and started fighting...

Then its they HAVE to come back or they let a warrior drop...

Then when they say "NOO IDIOT IT ISNT THAT WAY" You coulda blew it off like "Oh, Sorry, I thought since we were going this way We'd continue"

and that woulda been that...

True...that would've avoided the conflict, but it's also equally dishonest as not telling my group about capping. Then I would have been ***hole times 2.

Former Ruling · Jul 20, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12

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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon

True...that would've avoided the conflict, but it's also equally dishonest as not telling my group about capping. Then I would have been ***hole times 2.

You woulda been an "***hole" to yourself...noone else...

Gotta learn how to play things. Its ten times better for you in the situation (in their eyes) just to be seen as a "Newb" and just continue on, than to have all the conflict.

Canadian Bacon · Jul 20, 2006, 05:15 AM // 05:15

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

You woulda been an "***hole" to yourself...noone else...

Gotta learn how to play things. Its ten times better for you in the situation (in their eyes) just to be seen as a "Newb" and just continue on, than to have all the conflict.

I'm not heartless. I would feel bad about lieing mroe, although you are right, it would have prevented alot of conflict.

tear · Jul 20, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

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Originally Posted by Canadian Bacon

I mentioned it because he was right there in front of me, but the group was leaving. I doubted that anyone would come back and get it with me after.

Oh, and I just found Karen in game and invited her to come post here. I dunno if she will or not.

You take this shit real seriously, don't you?

Why did you post this? You already know it was wrong of you to not to tell the others beforehand of your prime intentions, and perhaps rude but understandable of them to not help you quickly finish what you needed, though the group's failure wasn't entirely your fault. Ok? Go play.

Edge Martinez · Jul 20, 2006, 06:01 AM // 06:01

Actually, I'm an ***hole. You're more of a dude who needs to maybe take a day or two off from GW. Seriously dude... F*** Karen. Why do you even care? Whether you capped it or not, you were going to finish the quest and it was the monk who dropped. Drink a Coke. Have a smoke. Get over it.

Kook~NBK~ · Jul 20, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Meh, you made a mistake. You should have said something like "Hey, while we're at it, I'd like to...." before heading out. Or you can ask your party to head back and cap it after completing the quest. Learn from it and move on.

(BTW, IMHO the biggest jerk in the story was the Monk who bailed on the entire party.)

Carl Butanananowski · Jul 20, 2006, 06:08 AM // 06:08

I have no idea who you people are.

But im rooting for cananidan bacon.

and i totally agree with kook about the monk.

Curse You · Jul 20, 2006, 06:31 AM // 06:31

Maybe the monk used the skill in my avatar on himself.

Then again, he was probably just one of the typical over-reacting spaz monks that join farming groups all the time, then leave if one thing annoys them.

Nevin · Jul 20, 2006, 06:36 AM // 06:36

Cap and ditch. What can they do?

inscribed · Jul 20, 2006, 06:42 AM // 06:42

Chick over reacted, you were in the clear, but seriously, you are taking the whole thing way to seriously. As was stated above, if you stopped just short of the boss you needed, I would have just engaged before anyone could have said otherwise. Prevents the argument, and once you show you aren't ditching them, everyone is content.

The milk shake · Jul 20, 2006, 07:23 AM // 07:23

this was Completely your fault, in fact you shouldnt even have made this post, cause it indubitably your fault which i will say again blahblahblah..etc

above remarks was sarcasm

You shouldnt have joined a quest group just so u can cap, but i think that other person slightly overreacted over a game

markus_thom · Jul 20, 2006, 07:37 AM // 07:37

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

um...It's a game. both of you need to chill out.

I hate that quote, "errrr its just a game man"

How dont we know lifes a game?

Just being skilly by the way.